Physical immortality

Joshua thinks that a perfectly maintained cell and body can lead to physical immortality. And he concludes his book with "for we are the illuminati.... Never to die"

Wolfram on the other hand considers immortality to be something which exists in the "Father's Kingdom" somewhere other than "Dark Planet Earth" ... for "there is no death in heaven" and Earth, as far as he is concerned, is a combination of hell and a cesspool.